Can we get these two on a podcast or something?
Photo: Getty Images Grimes and Lana Del Rey are everything and nothing alike at once: They’re both simultaneously acclaimed and derided musicians concerned with representing the future through polar opposite lenses, who came up via the early 2010s blogosphere and ended the decade with many opinions and problematic boyfriends. Who better to share a conversation in the very pages of the venerable Interview magazine? Del Rey interviewed Grimes for this one , and to no one’s surprise, it was a trip.
A bit of both. I’m really obsessed with polytheism. I love how the ancient Greeks or the ancient Egyptians lived in this weird anime world where there were just tons of gods that could be anything. It’s like every form of suffering had a representation. I wonder if it almost has a positive psychological effect. If your kid dies in a war, you can literally go speak to War and be like, “Why did you do this?” Or, “I hope you did this for a reason.
Later, in a perfectly evocative exchange, Grimes said, “If there’s an artist I love, I see them live and I cry, and I’m like, ‘Man, I’m acting like some 14th-century farmer right now.’ I feel like some pilgrim seeing a holy relic or something.” Del Rey replied, on-brand as ever, “I’ve felt that way at a [Bob] Dylan concert.
You hit a phase where you lose your life. I open the internet sometimes, and it’s like, “Grimes is testifying in court,” and I’m like, “What the fuck is this? I’m definitely not testifying in court.” I call my lawyer: “Am I testifying in court?” And they’re like, “No, you’re definitely not testifying in court.”As the conversation goes on, the two tease potential future book plans and Grimes compares a listener’s ability to recognize her music to “gaydar.
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