When Kanye needs help with scripture, he texts veteran producer and pastor Warryn Campbell
. Coincidentally, Campbell released his first album, a compilation titledRolling Stone From the beginning of your career, you were able to work in rap, R&B, and gospel all at once — how did you get your start?
Then I met these two girls, Mary Mary, who said they want to do gospel. I grew up at church, but I didn’t know how to make actual gospel music. So I just made the music that I knew how to make and we put gospel lyrics on top of it. That’s how I ended up in both worlds. But I’m of that Quincy Jones school: There are only two kinds of music, great music and terrible music. Completely different ways.
The next day one of the A&Rs from Roc-A-Fella called me like, yo, man, Kanye almost killed himself that night, he got in a bad car accident! I’m like, what? When I first met Kanye he was kind of chubby. But next time I saw him he was a skinny guy. He’s like, yeah, man. They had to wire my mouth shut — I couldn’t eat. So he puts out the first album, then on the second album, I saw he was doing a lot of samples. So I decided I would make my own samples.
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