While Congress heard closed-door testimony last week about President Trump pushing Ukraine to investigate his opponents, Rudy Giuliani was holding his own private Ukraine meeting in his Manhattan office.
"Nobody else would listen," he said, noting that the FBI and State Department declined to interview him."I am the witness of a robbery or a killing or whatever.
In contrast, Valery Chaly, the former Ukrainian ambassador to the U.S., has said that giving in to"hotheads" who want a joint investigation into 2016 would be"suicide" for Ukraine.Drew Angerer / Getty Images file Either way, there have been no indications that the top levels of Ukraine's government ordered or were aware of attempts to interfere in 2016. In contrast, U.S. intelligence agencies say Russia's extensive efforts to intervene in that same election were directed by the Kremlin.
Giuliani, Voloshin and others allege the black ledger was a forgery, even though Manafort acknowledged in his plea deal having raked in some $60 million in Ukraine.
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