The National’s Matt Berninger on Taylor Swift: 'She’s just so incredibly gifted & good at what she does. It’s like finally getting to dance with somebody that you’ve watched dance on television forever, & then suddenly you’re on the dance floor with them.'
, and of course have received a wave of new fans thanks to their recent collaborations with Taylor Swift.spoke with Berninger how the band’s music changes during a live show, the emotional meditation they gained from playing one song for six hours straight, and writing with Swift.It’s a strange evolution, because the songs are all written in these very private moments, and I never think about what it’s going to be like to perform anything when writing it.
We figured out pretty late in the game that if you have the room’s attention, they’re with you for the whole ride. We don’t have any “hits”… there are songs that are the most streamed and that kind thing, but we’ve never had a radio hit or anything like that. We have songs that we do play almost every show, but the truth is back in the day the less people were paying attention, the easier it was. My favorite thing of all was opening for bands like The Walkmen or R.E.M.
It’s been ten years since the band performed in the art exhibit “A Lot of Sorrow” with artist Ragnar Kjartansson, where you played the song “Sorrow” over and over for a six hour marathon. Are there any performance elements that stick with you to this day? Oftentimes I’m on stage now and I’ll remember that weird and I crave it a bit, to be able to be in that place where you suddenly forget where you are and are not conscious at all. You’re purely physical, you’re not mental and everything, the people, the faces go away. A room packed with people and everybody becoming separated from time and space in their lives and everything outside for a short period…that’s what we do when we go to see any kind of art.
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