The singer-songwriter speaks about her new album, life in the spotlight, and the power of four-letter words.
, St. Vincent. Having grown up playing leading roles on Disney TV shows—“Bizaardvark” and “High School Musical: The Musical: The Series”—she has an unusually uncoached command of the stage and of press interviews. We spent an hour talking on Zoom recently for
Completely. I always loved songwriting. That was my first love, my first passion when I was so young. I remember being four years old or something, and making up all these crazy songs about my four-year-old problems.Oh, my gosh. My mom has a video of me singing about losing my parents in the supermarket, which is a very traumatic experience when you’re four years old. I can imagine why I was moved to write a song about it.
Tell me about the experience of writing. How did it work? Because one of the things that I love about it is that it begins so directly. It sets the age, it sets the mood, it sets where you are, right in the first line. How did this happen? So that’s when I first heard about you. I was watching “Saturday Night Live”—and I looked back at the tape today. What was going through your mind when you were about to step onstage to what you had to know was an audience of untold millions? Are you shaking? How are you feeling? What’s in your head?
When you’re writing a song, sad or not sad, how much of it is just straight from your soul, or how much of it is sometimes a character? It seems to me that it can be both. Songwriting can do both things. Does your heart race? Does the top of your head fly into the crowd when you’re singing something like “Vampire”?
Oh, my gosh, she is worlds different. I’ve changed so much just between the ages of seventeen and twenty. In that time period, you grow. I feel like I grew twenty-five years in three years. So, yeah, she’s vastly different. But I definitely remember the fear of sitting down and trying to write this second album, and thinking, Oh, my God, I’m not a seventeen-year-old girl going through her first heartbreak anymore. That’s such a universally relatable experience.
Are there any poems or poets that you read that are helpful to you? Not just as a human being but as an artist? Social media makes its presence known in your songs. Do you also look at social media to see how people are perceiving you? It seems like a big burden. Yeah, I mean, I really idolize Alanis Morissette. I think she’s amazing, and I think her records are so human and perfectly capture what it is to be human. And I think they’re really healing.Yeah, I’ve met her a few times, and she is wonderful. She’s one of my inspirations on a human level. I think she’s handled her career with such grace and warmth, and has a groundedness to her that I really appreciate. She’s a bit of a guiding light for me.
I do. I can certainly see how people wouldn’t have that experience. I think it’s a very strange way to grow up. I feel really lucky that I was surrounded by wonderful people. My parents are wonderful and so grounded, and are always looking out for me. I just owe everything to them. I don’t think that I would have the attitude toward it that I do if it wasn’t for them. But, yeah, it is really strange, and you sacrifice a lot. I didn’t have a normal childhood, so that I could have that career.
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