This week on 'Intelligence Matters,' host Michael Morell speaks with John Sipher and Jerry O'Shea, former CIA officers and co-founders of Spycraft Entertainment, about what Hollywood gets right and wrong about its depictions of the CIA.
was adapted from the non-fiction books of Tony Mendez, a legendary CIA technical operations officer and the main character in the film. Andliterally went from the actual events to a screenplay within a matter of weeks of the bin Laden operation. Jerry, let's start with you with these two.
JERRY O'SHEA: Far be it from me to agree with John, but I think he got it exactly right/ There's three aspects to it. One is the artistic aspect. How long to take whatever the plot is, can you tell it best in 10 hours or can you tell it best within an hour and a half or two? So that's one question. I think the other is there is different financial incentives inside of the industry for how you do it. And one is also on talent.
JERRY O'SHEA: I saw this before I joined the agency. I'll just jump ahead. And what I love about it and what I think it gets great is that there are no or very few very clear lines in the intelligence world. And I think she sees two different truths, two different causes. And I think she understands both. She is influenced by both. Although at the end of the day, she has to pick one over the other.
It a story about a Soviet military electronics engineer. And to give a sense about the things we were talking about earlier, Michael, about how intense that relationship can be. The people who met him met him literally for minutes at a time. But the intensity was there. He was so engaged in trying to destroy the Soviet system, he wanted to pass the most damaging information he could to the United States. So much so that he insisted on having a suicide pill.
MICHAEL MORELL: Jerry, what I remember was it was raining and it was really cold. That's what I remember.MICHAEL MORELL: The map melted literally. John, what would you recommend to our listeners?
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